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He wasn't by logic and other shit by Ellen-the-Liepard He wasn't by logic and other shit by Ellen-the-Liepard
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A ancient war...beaten by simple Science
[EDIT2] Apparently a church changed Roman celebration of the sun to XMas. Apparently "Why make a new holiday when you can replace another holiday?" [/]

What gives it away is the fact that, when he was born, there was "Shepard's" and "Lambs". Lambs are born in Spring, not Winter. They would be sheep XMas, or, at least, dead.
[EDIT] Ok, he apparently was born in Modern day israel. However, my question about his skin still stands. [/]
Also my mind gets fucked when I try to understand why Mary is still a virgin and have a child
MOAR:
Why do some Christians say Jew's killed their lord? I thought he was the king of jews o3o
Also how is he white? One thought that part of the world was a bit hot...He would of, at least, been tanned.

Slice his throat with a rusty cleaver
Slice his throat with a rusty cleaver
Slice his throat with a rusty cleaver
Early in the morning~
The drunken Whaler (Dishonored remake of Drunken sailor)

Don't get me wrong, I dont care if you have a religion. But I am an Atheist that celebrates Christmas. I'm not a true Atheist? I am. Cuz he wasn't born on Christmas
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:iconfreddyfazbar:
FreddyFazbar Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
He was so born on Christmas.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2015  Student Digital Artist
A really confusing "christmas" it was. 
Lambs died because of the cold.
No one ate. 
Everyone ded 
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FreddyFazbar Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes, just like very other day in povertious areas.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Everyone ded 
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FreddyFazbar Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
ded .Dude, I need help to block this guy. Hey keeps on spamming me and lying about me and trying to get me banned from DA. His name is EXxiiLED. Please report him if you can. Thanks for the help!
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TheDreamVista Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Student General Artist
I already know that he's not born in December 25th, Jesus was either born in late September, June 17th (might be wrong), or early October.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Considering the lambs, and that Sheep don't breed on other times, it should be during spring months. 
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TheDreamVista Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Student General Artist
Who really knows?
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014
Well Duh! Whatever gave you the idea he was born then?? from what I understand its merely the date on which we commemorate/celebrate his birth. kinda of like how an abandoned orphan might randomly pick a date to celebrate Their birthday. from what I know about the reasons behind the date, It was easier to give pagans a Christian Holiday to celebrate in order give the local priest's an easier time looking the other way when they obsereved their Soltice observations.

Still doesn't make it right to bash christians/christmas just because your religious belief differ from ours.

;peace:
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Student Digital Artist
"Still doesn't make it right to bash christians/christmas just because your religious belief differ from ours."
Explaining how he wasn't born on a certain day= Bashing now?
Lawl


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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014
did you read the rest of his artist description? that's how.

If it weren't for the tone that description gives this stamp, I might've :+fav: it.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I'm a she.

There is no tone; you literally dont like it because it's "bashing" your religion even though it's a stamp about your savoir's life.
Or is it because I'm an atheist/satanist? 
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014
Uh, are you retarded or something.
you just told me I didn't like it because of its tone after telling me there is no tone.
doubly stupid is how you seem to think an opinion piece doesn't have a tone, or that 'bashing' isn't a tone.
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I don't know if you are an "atheist/satanist", & I don't know why you think this matters when I'm only discussing your stamp/artist description- of said stamp.
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Apologies about the gender thing. its a few days ago, but I like to think I was typing 'this' instead of 'his' and the 't' didn't take, but I can understand if it was offensive to be mistaken like that. sorry. :peace:
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as to the scratched out bit above, that was my initial reaction to you claiming there is no tone. it is basically my way of pointing out how absurd it is to claim there is no tone, and how even more absurd it is to then run with the claim that 'Bashing' someone or something isn't something that qualifies as a 'tone'. If it bothers you that much, that I won't :+fav: this stamp because of the tone of the artist description, that's not my problem. deal with it in a mature manner and you might come out of this with your dignity intact. Otherwise you could just decide to block me, despite how it would make you look. it's your call. :peace:

~:peace:~
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Oh god this comment makes me giggle.

 Uh, are you retarded or something. 
No; you act like it though.

 you just told me I didn't like it because of its tone after telling me there is no tone. 
There is no tone. 

 doubly stupid is how you seem to think an opinion piece doesn't have a tone, or that 'bashing' isn't a tone.
They dont unless you shout them. I wasn't going in ALL CAPS AND SHOUTING THEM OUT LIKE SOME RETARD CHILD WHO FAILED THEIR ENGLISH CLASS.

 I don't know if you are an "atheist/satanist", & I don't know why you think this matters when I'm only discussing your stamp/artist description- of said stamp.
Heard of Joking?

 Apologies about the gender thing. its a few days ago, but I like to think I was typing 'this' instead of 'his' and the 't' didn't take, but I can understand if it was offensive to be mistaken like that. sorry. 
Felt like informing.

 as to the scratched out bit above, that was my initial reaction to you claiming there is no tone. it is basically my way of pointing out how absurd it is to claim there is no tone, and how even more absurd it is to then run with the claim that 'Bashing' someone or something isn't something that qualifies as a 'tone'. 
There literally is no tone; coming from the person who made the stamp.

 
 If it bothers you that much, that I won't +fav this stamp because of the tone of the artist description, that's not my problem. deal with it in a mature manner and you might come out of this with your dignity intact
I literally responded to you because of your pathetic claim of "It has a bad tone" when there is no proof it does.

 
 Otherwise you could just decide to block me, despite how it would make you look. it's your call. 
I dont block people unless they're annoying; you are annoying but also amusing.
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014
"They dont:bulletpurple: unless you shout them..."---- Wrong. There was nothing correct with the entirety of that statement. {:bulletpurple:also you missed ' in -don't-, miss failed English class :razz }
"There is no tone. "---Ditto the above.

"There literally is no tone; coming from the person who made the stamp."---Never claimed that the stamp by itself had a tone I disagreed with. But when paired with your artist description of said stamp... -{the stamp is like a parade. a parade in general is considered at least an okay thing, if not a good thing. But what if its a Nazi/KKK parade through a Jewish/African American town/community?? you think that Doesn't change the Tone???}---"I literally responded to you because of your pathetic claim of "It has a bad tone" when there is no proof it does."---uh, yeah I do. your entire artist description is proof enough.

"I dont:bulletpurple: block people unless they're annoying"--- somewhat the same, I generally don't block unless I'm blocked first, mainly because I had a gal block me once, and then/after they responded. so I couldn't respond.

:peace:
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Omg I missed a ' it's such a life damaging thing I'm going to get shot by an invisable dickhead in the sky
THAT's a tone.
The description, however, doesn't have a tone.
Did you honestly start commenting just for nothing? If so then tell me, I dont want to waste time on you; you're not worth it.
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Jell-o-Emperor Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Don't distinguish the foolishness of men for they'll continue to be fruitless in finding answers.
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CriminallyNerdy Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014  Student Writer
Finally someone has said it! In fact, even as a religious person it's always bothered me how people assume he was born on Christmas when there was really no proof of that. In fact, the Bible never spoke of or specified Jesus' birthday at all, so it's crazy how up in arms people get about it. But a lot of researchers have been understanding that logically Jesus' birthday was most likely in Spring or Fall considering the passage of his birth implied animals were able to graze out in the fields.

And obviously no farmer, unless they were really sadistic, would make their animals graze out in the cold. But I think it's mostly a case of a lot of people ignoring that detail in the passage that makes believe that Jesus' birthday being December is true, when in actuality a person who does enough research knows that the idea of Jesus' birthday being in December originated when Pagan beliefs were merged with Christian beliefs. In fact, Horus, the anti-christ god figure was the one who was born in December which is a little known fact so far.
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Paulthored Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014
considering the climate of Israel, & the other circumstance's of His birth:bulletred:, it really becomes unlikely that we will ever be able to narrow the date of His birth down to something even like season.

:bulletred:ahem, the census the was taking place at the time. He was born in a manger because everywhere else was full. This means it is not improbable that all that influx of people traveling/stopping to/by the town had driven the sheppards out of the town for a few days/weeks.
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014
I've known this for years. :lol:
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I didn't know it mostly because I never really cared; my RE Teacher then randomly mentioned it when I used to do RE and it kinda stuck .3.
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014
very few people believe this actually. those who do are stupid. 
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
What; that he was born on Christmas? o3o
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014
yeah. lol
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:iconellen-the-liepard:
Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Ahh yeah o3o
Have they come up with an excuse about why Lambs were born in Winter yet?
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PoppyCorn99 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Chances are, He was actually born in the Spring.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Oui Oui
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matsumay387 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
I can answer your questions, I believe. The Jewish Pharisees, the officials of Israel back in those days, had Jesus put to death for what they called blaspheming and claiming that he was the Messiah, and 'King of the Jews.' Mary was a virgin when she had Jesus, because the Messiah could only be born from the seed of a woman, as it says in the Bible, and being impregnated by a man would have tainted Mary with the 'Sin of Adam.' Also mentioned in the Bible. And on his skin, most Christians are white, so, any depiction of him is going to be of a white man, despite its inaccuracy.
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trafficeddie Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
thank you at least someone else agree with me all though our beliefs are the same
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Katzztar Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
ITs been years since I've read up on the subject, I used to get the image of birtday & death day- christmas & easter - mixed up. LOL
I had to remember Easter was for his death/revival whatever...
There were several pagan holidays happening in December, mainly the Winter Solstice and Yule.

I think the practive has roots in what the Romans did when they took over.

It was an old tradition when they move to newlands to try to put their beilefs above the natives. The Romans did it first, there are many native gods that were given Greco-Roman names when the Roman Empire took over the lands. For example the local god of war would then be called Mars/Aries. The Romans did not outlaw the old beliefs for they knew it would make the natives rebel. Most of time, they kept their own beliefs but the Roman soldiers would identify their gods as just another face of their gods, slowly assuming the locals into the Roman ways.

When Christians moved to new lands, they were more likely to outlaw the old beliefs but there would still be the old holidays. They would make christian holidays on same or near the pagan holidays to try to displace the pagan ways.
All Saints Day also originally happened at a different time, it was moved to Nov.1 to compete with Sowen aka Holloween.
Heck Easter took its name for the GODDESS that the original holiday was dedicated to= Ēostre also written as Ostara [link]
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Do you mind summarizing this?
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Any reason why you sent me to some shit I dont believe in?
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I don't get it :I
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JohnWRoberts Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Filmographer
you are right. we just know it was cold.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Very very cold. Then again normally warm area's have cool nights o3o
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JohnWRoberts Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Professional Filmographer
:-) yep
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az4rel Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
the guy was born on modern day israel not rome.
the Christmas time was imposed on december in order to make it happen at the same time of some "pagan" celebrations, so people could get confused and impose the religion better.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh wow it took the poor sod days to reach a town.
Meh, if they wanted it to be in Xmas, they should of had no Lambs
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az4rel Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
they changed the time of the thingy like 2 centurys after they made up the story the first time, so they did not have the option to remove the lambs.
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Pffft lol
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SliperrySheep Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012   General Artist
:clap: You have just taught me some science as well as a new argument against extremist~ <:

//submits to a group. -/shot-
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Yay Im a teacher 8D

Lol XD
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SliperrySheep Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012   General Artist
Yay. XD
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Phantasma-goria-666 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Quite a few people believe wasn't born in December... I've heard spring (makes sense with the lamb thing) or october...

I just like christmas because of the FOOD!!!!! :happybounce:
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Aquastick102 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Crapcrapcrapcrapcrap, I think it was said that Christmas was originally a day that Romans celebrated the Sun. I'm not sure though, I can't remember! Damn library not letting me keep a Horrible Histories book. >:[
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backup12051997 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
at least in mine school library have one right now(and in its original version!)
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Phantasma-goria-666 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Lol XD friend :3
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Ellen-the-Liepard Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
He was most likely born roughly spring time, or middle ish

Lol
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